i would let joe biden do as much stocking. you never know when he's going to stuff his foot in his mouth. he has done it multiple times over the last few weeks. gerri: romney's court in that debate on issues that he really wanted to talk about, jobs and the deficit. my understanding is that you just looked at this today and found obama scored 20 on the deficit and romney scored 41. when the team to jobs, 24357. run the way out ahead. >> obama keeps saying, romney's test plan will go below this $5 trillion : the budget. the other line, i have this $4 trillion plan. there is no plan. i have to blame people in the media. they are correctly pressing romney to be more specific about his plans, but i don't think that the press has been even handed in asking barack obama about his plan. you keep saying have a $4 trillion plant. i have not seen it. >> here is another issue along those lines. the president has gone so negative year. calling romney a liar which is something you don't typically do. >> i live in virginia, so we are just s